Mountain Meadows day; historical interpretation and healing over 160 years after Utah’s darkest day

Composite image. Photo on left circa 1932 and courtesy of Utah State Historical Society. Photo on right from Aug. 25, 2018, and taken by Reuben Wadsworth, St. George News

FEATURE — When considering the date it happened and the carnage that took place, one could call the Mountain Meadows Massacre the first 9/11.

The event, which took place Sept. 11, 1857, is easily the most controversial moment in Utah’s history and the blackest mark in the history of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Interpretive panel at the overlook of Mountain Meadows near the 1990 granite slab monument, Mountain Meadows, Utah, Aug. 25, 2018 | Photo by Reuben Wadsworth, St. George News

It is practically beyond reason to try to understand how a group of local Mormon settlers could have slaughtered 120 overland emigrants from Arkansas who were just passing through seeking a better life – literal greener pastures in California.

Historians of the 20th and 21st century have been trying to put the pieces together to understand the motives of the perpetrators of this 19th century bloodbath and explain exactly what happened.

But no one knows for sure if they’ve completely succeeded.

As with most, if not all, controversial events in U.S. history, there are several different interpretations of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, as well as conspiracy theories surrounding it.

One of the main sticking points with the Mountain Meadows Massacre is the involvement of Brigham Young, then-president of the church as well as Utah’s Territorial Governor.

To some, Young helped orchestrate the massacre, while to others, he tried to call it off.

The Massacre story

To mark the 150th anniversary of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, in September 2007, an article by the executive director of the LDS Family and Church History Department, Richard Turley, provided an overview of the massacre for a general church audience in the Ensign magazine.

Turley explained the rising tensions in the Utah Territory during the time period, which is one thing all historians do agree on. U.S. President James Buchanan had just ordered troops to march to Salt Lake City to quell a supposed rebellion against the government in the territory.

Portrait of John D. Lee, the scapegoat of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, photo date and location not specified | Photo courtesy of the Washington County Historical Society, St. George News

Knowing this, Young called on his people to ready themselves for what he perceived as an upcoming battle, which included hoarding their surplus goods and food for their own use and not selling or trading with outsiders in preparation. As such, many overland emigrants who came through the territory hoping to resupply were in for a rude awakening.

Turley also noted that stories ran rampant of emigrants poisoning water holes or dead cattle carcasses in retaliation to the Mormons’ refusal to trade with outsiders. Some argue that the livestock died after eating noxious weeds or contracted a disease common to cattle during the time period, possibly anthrax. Some say that the poisoning of the cattle led to the death of local Native Americans, which raised their ire and led to their desire for revenge by wiping out the emigrants who allegedly did the poisoning.

Both exaggerations were used as a justification and an explanation for the mass killings later on, but both proved to be untrue.

In Turley’s version of events, when the Fancher party, the group who met their demise at Mountain Meadows, stopped in Cedar City seeking to resupply, one member of the party boasted of having the gun that killed Joseph Smith. Others in the party threatened to join the incoming federal troops against the Mormon settlers, Turley noted.

“The men’s statements were most likely idle threats made in the heat of the moment, but in the charged environment of 1857, Cedar City’s leaders took the men at their word,” Turley wrote of the incident.

Cedar City leaders wouldn’t let the matter rest and wanted to punish the men in some way – whether it was arresting them or making them pay a fine of some cattle. Isaac Haight, Cedar City’s mayor and stake president, wanted to call in the militia but was rebuked by William Dame of Parowan, who was the district militia commander, Turley wrote.

These Cedar City leaders eventually ignored the decision of their commander, took matters into their own hands and enlisted the local Paiute Indians, who reluctantly agreed to help them in what turned out to be a five-day siege.

First, a few scuffles between settlers and emigrants led to the killing of 15 of the party’s emigrants and wounding some others. According to Turley’s story, the militia reached the point of no return when it realized that the emigrants knew the killings had come at the hands of whites, not Indians, and that that knowledge would lead to more trouble for the settlers from the government.

Eventual scapegoat John D. Lee became involved in the planning of the event through his role as the Fort Harmony militia major. On the day of the actual massacre, Lee, along with the accompanying militia, went into the emigrants’ tight wagon fort under a white flag saying that the local militia would escort them back to Cedar City but that they must leave their possessions and weapons behind as a peaceful sign to the Indians.

This historic image is an illustration that appeared in Leslie’s Illustrated that depicts the execution of John D. Lee by firing squad on March 23, 1877, at the Mountain Meadows Massacre site, Utah, image appeared in the magazine on April 14, 1877 | Image courtesy of Utah State Historical Society, St. George News

“The suspicious emigrants debated what to do but in the end accepted the terms, seeing no better alternative,” Turley wrote. “They had been pinned down for days with little water, the wounded in their midst were dying, and they did not have enough ammunition to fend off even one more attack.”

Seventeen children, who were deemed too young to tell any tales, were moved out first and spared, but at a prearranged signal, each militia man shot the emigrant next to him and the Indians swooped in to attack the women and remaining children.

Despite plans to pin the massacre on the Paiutes – and persistent subsequent efforts to do so – one participant later maintained that his fellow militiamen did most of the killing, Turley concluded.

Even before the siege an express rider was sent to Salt Lake City with a letter to Brigham Young seeking his advice on the matter, Turley wrote. Unfortunately, Young’s reply came two days after the massacre.

That reply letter said that the federal troops would not be coming before that winter. It also said to not meddle with the emigrants and let them pass in peace.

“When Haight read Young’s words, he sobbed like a child and could manage only the words, ‘Too late, too late,” Turley wrote.

One of the things that defies understanding about the massacre that Turley notes in his article is that before the event and after, the Mountain Meadows Massacre perpetrators lead decent, nonviolent lives. However, those men felt guilt for what they had done, and some of the men and their families were ostracized by their neighbors.

A territorial grand jury indicted nine men for their role in the massacre, but Lee was the only one convicted and punished for his role in the massacre – with his life. Lee dug his own grave and suffered death by firing squad at the massacre site in 1877.

Turley also points out the irony of the event. The very settlers who perpetrated the massacre came to Utah because they abhorred mob violence and wanted to flee from it. However, in the Mountain Meadows Massacre, they exacted it to a more grave degree than was ever turned toward them.

The event’s historiography: interpretations over time

Like any controversial historical event, the historiography of the Mountain Meadows Massacre is fascinating.

Technically, historiography is defined as “the study of the writing of history,” but in essence, it illustrates how interpretations of an event change over time. And the perception of the Mountain Meadows Massacre has definitely changed.

In its immediate aftermath, the stories tried to place the blame on the Indians or justify the killings because the emigrants’ actions toward the Mormon settlers. In reality, the Mormon hierarchy hoped it could be forgotten, but in the mid-20th century a historian emerged who wanted to set the record straight.

This historic photo shows Juanita Brooks (left), author of the first book about the Mountain Meadows Massacre, next to a monument dedicated to John D. Lee at Lee’s Ferry, Arizona, circa 1961 | Photo courtesy of Utah State Historical Society, St. George News

Dixie State College English professor and dean of women Juanita Brooks wrote the first full-length account of the event, simply entitled “Mountain Meadows Massacre,” published in 1950. She was inspired to write it from stories she had heard since she was a child and because her grandfather played a role in it.

Her goal in writing it was to present the facts, but she caught major flak from the LDS church, who at that time wanted the most unsavory episode in its history swept under the rug for good. The church barred her from looking at certain primary sources it kept under lock and key. While the church was not supportive of her efforts, she received no formal disciplinary action, but she was ostracized in other ways, such as being released from her calling as Stake Relief Society president.

Even though she was a staunch LDS member, her writing didn’t come off as if she were someone who was an LDS apologist. She was a courageous historian some say was born to tell the story she did. For over 50 years, her book was the only detailed volume on the massacre until Will Bagley’s “Blood of the Prophets,” published in 2002.

As his subtitle subtly suggests, Bagley’s book put a different spin on the massacre. One of the aims of his book, which is clearly explained in his introduction, is to try to implicate Brigham Young as one of the massacre’s masterminds through his research.

Bagley grew up as a member of the faith but has since left it and is definitely not considered an LDS apologist, even though he does admit in his introduction that he is proud of his Mormon heritage.

Bagley admits in his introduction that his aim was not to revise Brooks’ work but to add to it. He praises Brooks for her work and is mostly complimentary of it. His main criticism of her work is that she was too amiable in her depiction of Lee.

In his preface, Bagley asks two questions – “What did Brigham Young know about the Massacre?” and “When did he know it?” – and he attempts to answer those questions based on his research throughout his book.

This historic portrait of Brigham Young was taken in 1876 and reflective of what he looked like while he was a part-time resident of St. George, Utah, circa 1876 | Photo courtesy of the Utah State Historical Society, St. George News

Historian Lawrence C. Coates, in his review of Bagley’s book for The Journal of American History in December 2003, said that Bagley’s evidence trying to implicate Young as one of the instigators of the massacre is circumstantial. To Coates, Bagley tries to weave “an elaborate conspiracy theory,” adding words to primary sources to spin his tale. Coates notes that the book must be read with a critical eye.

Bagley argues that the religious fanaticism of Brigham Young and other Mormons was the principal cause of the massacre, Goates wrote in his review.

But some might call Coates’ viewpoint into question because at the time he wrote the review, he was a professor at Brigham Young University, Idaho, an LDS-operated institution.

“Bagley’s Brother Brigham is a thoroughly flawed Saint,” University of New Mexico history professor Richard Etulain wrote in his review of Bagley’s book in the Spring 2003 edition of Montana: The Magazine of Western History. “By stirring up Indians, lashing out at critics of the Mormons, and telling churchmen they should stop immigrants passing through the Great Basin, Young played a central role, Bagley asserts, in bringing on the massacre.”

At the end of his review, Etulain tries to put the event into perspective for those who criticize the LDS church for its members’ involvement in the massacre.

“Still, before anti-Mormons try to damn the LDS leaders and people for this blot on Mormon history, they should recall and regret mistakes such as Japanese relocation, other American religious persecutions, and mistreatment of Indians generally.”

Some argue that Bagley’s book spurred the publication of “Massacre at Mountain Meadows: An American Tragedy,” written by Ronald Walker, Richard Turley and Glen Leonard, three well-respected historians with close ties to the LDS church. In contrast to the challenges Brooks faced in writing her account, the church allowed the three authors open access to its archives, seeking to craft a transparent account of the tragedy.

In their preface, the authors note that historians before them have framed the massacre in two different ways. One portrays the perpetrators as good people and the victims as evil people who committed outrages during their travel through central and Southern Utah. The other depicts the victims as innocent and their killers as evil, following a misguided religion.

However, the authors’ approach to telling the massacre’s tale, they note, “attempts to navigate between the extremes of the other two.”

“This approach is partly a commonsense recognition that both victims and perpetrators were decent but imperfect people whose paths crossed in a moment of history that resulted in a terrible tragedy,” the authors explain.

One reviewer, Patrick Q. Mason of the University of Notre Dame, writing in Church History, a publication of the American Society of Church History, said that the three authors put to rest any suggestion that they are apologists right off the bat.

“In the very first sentence of the preface, they assign primary blame to the Mormon perpetrators, accusing them of a litany of crimes from deceit to treachery to cold-blooded murder,” Mason writes.

Walker, Turley and Leonard even clearly state their major disagreement with Bagley, who claims that Young told the Paiutes in a meeting on Sept. 1, 1857, that they could have the emigrants’ cattle, and, according to Bagley’s account, he “encouraged his Indian allies to attack the Fancher party.”

“The authors explicitly counter Bagley’s argument that Brigham Young essentially ordered the attack on the emigrants, contending that ‘neither chronology nor unfolding events confirm such a charge’” Mason explains.

Though absolving Young of direct responsibility, Mason writes that the authors do not shy away from criticizing Young, however, saying that Young’s declaration of martial law after hearing about the advance of the federal army contributed to heightened Mormon militancy, and his unclear Indian policy might have confused some settlers.

The Walker, Turley and Leonard book’s weakness is it basically ends with the receipt of Brigham Young’s letter telling Southern Utah Mormon leaders to leave the Fancher Party alone. It does briefly mention Lee’s trial and execution but has virtually nothing of the fallout and attempted cover-up after the massacre. However, the authors even admit that they could write a whole other volume on that part of the Massacre’s history, and many might hope they do.

Monument history and healing

This historic image is an illustration that appeared in Leslie’s Illustrated depicting an army regiment visiting the destroyed cairn monument at the Mountain Meadows Massacre site, Utah, in 1864, image appeared in the magazine on April 14, 1877 | Image courtesy of Utah State Historical Society, St. George News

This history of the series of monuments at the Mountain Meadows Massacre site is also a testament to the event’s controversiality.

An army regiment erected the first monument in 1859, a large cairn fashioned of stones with a wooden cross on top. In his book, Bagley contended that Brigham Young arranged for that memorial to be torn down in 1861. In the next 70 years, it was built back up several times and continued to be vandalized.

In 1932, the Utah Pioneer Trails and Landmarks Association built a wall around the cairn site and installed a plaque, which read simply that the Fancher party “ was attacked by white men and Indians.”

In 1990, the Mountain Meadows Massacre Association, a group of descendants, along with the help of the LDS church and the state of Utah, erected several white granite panels on a hillside above the valley where the massacre took place to remember the victims by listing their names. It’s text, however, was a source of criticism. It says:

In the valley below, between September 7 and 11, 1857, a company of more than 120 Arkansas emigrants led by Capt. John T. Baker and Capt. Alexander Fancher was attacked while en route to California. This event is known in history as the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

Sociologist and historian James Loewen, in his book “Lies Across America: What Our Historic Sites Get Wrong,” noted that “all across the United States, when the dominant group has committed wicked deeds, historical markers either simply omit the acts or write about them in the passive voice.”

The passive voice is used to shield the group doing the action, Loewen attests, but it sends the wrong message.

“When coupled with the passive voice, the term ‘massacre,’ while perfectly appropriate, guarantees that most tourists will infer that Native Americans did the grisly work,” Loewen concludes, and that is just what the massacres perpetrators wanted people to think, as explained earlier.

The approach to the Mountain Meadows Massacre monument with a U.S. and Arkansas flag prominently flying to the right, Mountain Meadows, Utah, Aug. 25, 2018 | Photo by Reuben Wadsworth, St. George News

The monument in the valley below received an upgrade in 1999, again the product of a partnership between descendant groups and the LDS church. They erected a stone cairn monument patterned after the one the army put up 140 years before but without the cross.

President Gordon B. Hinckley, who took a vested interest in moving the new monument forward, especially after seeing how horribly it had fallen in disrepair, spoke at its Sept. 11, 1999, dedication. Some were hoping for an official church apology, but he stopped short of that. When asked in a later interview who was responsible for the massacre, he said, “the local people.”

A ceremony on the same date in 2007 marked the 150th anniversary. Then-church historian Marlin K. Jensen, who also showed a extreme interest in setting the story straight and remembering the victims, wrote a statement to read on that occasion, but because of illness, was unable to deliver it. Instead, then-Elder Henry B. Eyring, now second counselor in the First Presidency, presented it.

What was done here long ago by members of our Church represents a terrible and inexcusable departure from Christian teaching and conduct. We cannot change what happened, but we can remember and honor those who were killed here. We express profound regret for the massacre carried out in this valley 150 years ago today and for the undue and untold suffering experienced by the victims then and by their relatives to the present time.

The statement went on to voice regret to the Paiute people, who for so long bore the principal blame for the massacre but who would not have even participated in the massacre had they not been convinced by local Mormon leaders.

The word “apology” was never used in the remarks, and no official apology has ever come from church leadership. Despite that, descendant groups have been happy to have built a great relationship with the LDS church and work in concert with it to preserve the memory of the massacre and their forebearers who met their demise because of it.

In fact, Jensen was a big proponent of communication between the church and the Fancher party’s descendants, traveling to Arkansas to meet with descendant families and allow the healing to begin. He was also a driving force in helping the site reach National Historic Monument status in 2011 and spoke at the ceremony designating it a National Historic Monument on Sept. 11, 2011.

In his remarks on that occasion, Jensen said there are two parts to the massacre’s history, the story of the massacre itself and also the story of how those affected by it have worked together in its aftermath.

Close-up of the Mountain Meadows Massacre rock cairn monument and the wall surrounding it, Mountain Meadows, Utah, Aug. 25, 2018 | Photo by Reuben Wadsworth, St. George News

“This too is a complex narrative,” Jensen said. “In part, it documents the quest of historians in the intervening years to uncover the truth about the massacre. That truth, as it has emerged, has been greatly unsettling and a source of much reflection and sadness on the part of today’s Church leaders and members. The remarkable progress made in preserving Mountain Meadows as a sacred memorial to the massacre victims and, in according those victims the recognition they deserve, is also a vital part of this history.”

As most historians who have researched and written about the massacre will say, its story is definitely not cut and dry. For instance, reading the full-length, detailed accounts of the massacre mentioned in this story might leave one with more questions than answers.

Bagley even admitted that it’s basically impossible to get accurate data on the event.

“In the case of Mountain Meadows, we have a record irrevocably colored by dubious folklore and corrupted by perjury, false memory, and the destruction of key documents,” Bagley writes in his preface. “Almost every acknowledged ‘fact’ about the fate of these murdered people is open to question.”

But that is the draw of controversial events like this. There will most likely be no foregone conclusions.

Bagley also notes in his book that it is up to the reader to decide for themselves what they want to believe.

But it might be best to read several accounts before readers form their own opinions.

Visiting Mountain Meadows

The Mountain Meadows Massacre National Historic Landmark is located approximately 4o minutes north of St. George on state Route 18. It includes several different monuments and memorials all clustered within about a 2-mile radius. It’s turn-off is well-marked along the highway.

The main memorial, the recreated rock cairn, is reached via a gravel road which forks left after turning off the highway. A short trail leads across a wash to it from a gravel parking lot with pit toilets.

The right fork of the road leads to a short trail up to the overlook monument, the granite slabs listing the names of all the dead.

Two other monuments, one honoring the women and children who died, the other honoring the men, are directly off the highway to the north of the two large monuments. 

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20 Comments

  • sheepobserver September 23, 2018 at 7:16 am

    All this is is proof that everyone is no better or worse than anyone else, regardless of which god they choose to believe.
    We’re all guilty.

    Oddly, before I went up the road to view the monument (which is a very nice monument), I had traveled to Harrison, Ar and saw their small monument in the town square area.
    It gives a brief summary of what happened, and has this nice quote written below,

    “”Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.”

    They don’t seem to be “over it”.

    • tcrider September 23, 2018 at 10:41 am

      totally agree,
      This is nothing but a monument to vengence and just another
      symbol for the ever judging church that consistently violates the
      first amendment and seeks the tax benefits, but wants to dictate
      to all the sheeple of Utah.

  • NotSoFast September 23, 2018 at 8:27 am

    An excellent unbiased examination of facts related to this human tragedy Mr. Wadsworth. Thank you.
    Looking forward to tagging along on your next southern Utah adventure history wagon.

  • Real Life September 23, 2018 at 8:35 am

    The date, September 11, 1857, is very telling. Not because of the month or day, but because of the year. Had it not been right before the country was about to be torn apart by civil war, much harsher punishment would have been, and should have been handed out here in Utah. Starting with Brigham Young, there would have been a lot more men hung by the neck till death.

  • Happy Commenter September 23, 2018 at 11:38 am

    Being driven towards violence and murder by non-existent threats and fake news, HMMMM..sounds alot like our college campuses of today!

    • Anejo September 24, 2018 at 5:28 pm

      Not just colleges either. Watching a charismatic leader whip up people with preconceived biases into a state of paranoia is all the rage at the moment.

  • comments September 23, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    Well, one has to look at the context of the times those early mormons were living in. Brigham was the prophet/king of the UT territories, with absolute power, and his followers were fanatically loyal. Disobeying the prophet king could bring punishment of death. Nothing went down in the UT territories without king brigham knowing about it. And then wonder why king brigham didn’t take the initiative to even slightly punish any of those that carried out the massacre. If anything he protected them from the US gov’t and tried to obfuscate the whole event at every turn. Also, cedar was not ‘a hop and a skip’ away from mountain meadows in those days. The amount of planning, logistics, and resources to be used to carry out the massacre was no small deal, and would’ve required the orders of high church leaders, very likely from the very top–meaning king brigham.

    Locked away deep in their secret vault the LDS probably have direct evidence that king brigham ordered the massacre. Like is said here, the LDS really just wanted to sweep the whole event under the rug and have it fade into obsure and forgotten history, which they were almost successful at doing. We’ll prob never have the direct evidence b/c LDS are so good at keeping secrets, but it just is hardly a stretch to pin the whole thing on the prophet king. It’s far and away the most logical explanation.

    I’d encourage you to look up the word ‘historicity’. In actuality, it would be a stretch to assume anyone other than King Brigham ordered the massacre. After all, he didn’t have to do any of the actual killing or work. He got to sit on his throne and bark orders.

    To this day it still feels creepy up there. I’d encourage you people to visit the MMM sites at night. Maybe you’ll see a ghost or two 😉 . Ofc, pretty soon the whole area will prabably be turned into housing developments and mcmansions. Maybe these mcmansions will become future haunted houses? LOL

  • chris keele September 23, 2018 at 3:24 pm

    Truly as tragic of an event that we in Utah have had to try and put some rational explanation forward, an embarrassment for a lot of families then and now, and maybe should be a reminder to us, that all our words matter, maybe the emigrant’s from Arkansas should have been more careful in their choice of words when they claimed to have the weapon used to assassinate Joseph Smith with, and would be inclined to join with the federal troops that would be coming to punish those responsible for the massacre, in general just threatening people that had just escaped that kind of torture for no real reason, if you look at history and read about the ridiculous and incredible amount of persecution that the early Mormon pioneers had just been suffering for years, it is not that hard to understand how this occurred. We should all take a lesson from this in what we choose to do and say in our everyday discourse, and the way we conduct ourselves.

    • comments September 23, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      I love how you LDS’ers have this deep persecution complex. As a fellow LDS, let me just tell you, you need to get over yourself. Luckily no one really cares that much about history from the 1850s. What’s done is done. Prophet Smith, Prophet Young, Prophet Jeffs–all perverts, but it’s old news now, so get over yourself 😉

      • Happy Commenter September 23, 2018 at 9:38 pm

        You are apostate, nobody is your fellow LDS’er! You need to get over yourself first brainiac!

        • comments September 25, 2018 at 1:17 am

          Yep, if I’d been around during King Brigham’s time the LDS would’ve burned me at the stake or worse. An apostate, a heretic!? a witch!!!? naughty naughty, right? 😉

    • Dennis September 23, 2018 at 9:05 pm

      Persecution??? For the men to take multiple wives in the 1800’s, they were lucky they could settle anywhere.

  • Kilroywashere September 23, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    Massacre of the innocents. Why I do not celebrate Pioneer day in July officially until 2 days after. My holiday is for the Pioneers that didn’t make it, and those that died shortly after arriving. Some things cannot be forgotten. The monument does not atone for anything. And those who died, long ago are still in our memories today. That’s all that counts.

  • Kilroywashere September 23, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    Note: As a direct descendent of Henry Lee, just glad I’m not related to John D Lee. Let’s hope Washington City doesn’t resurrect that statue again. They’re tearing down statues of my ancestor General Robert E Lee these days, and to be honest he wouldn’t care. Now the local boy scouts know why I duck taped the flag hole in front of my house and left a message last Pioneer day 2 months ago in July. They respected my wishes. And I appreciated the respect. And I do appreciate them putting up flags on the other holidays.

  • Anejo September 24, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Interesting article. I am curious if anyone has read the account written in 1910 by Josiah F Gibbs? If not it’s worth 30-40 minutes of your time.

    I also agree about it raising questions specifically…

    1, Was John D Lee excommunicated in 1870?
    2, Did John D Lee have his temple blessing restored by the LDS church in 1961?
    3, If so does that mean he didn’t shed innocent blood or are those more guidelines than actual rules?

    Maybe those with more information than I can fill in the blanks.

  • commonsense September 24, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    Parley P Pratt was a beloved Mormon apostle who was killed in Arkansas in a brutal way while traveling alone. Locals shot him from his horse and then stabbed him multiple times.
    He died of blood loss while Arkansasans watched through their screen door. He was buried in a shallow grave where his remains lie to this day.

    This happened four months before 9/11/1857 and word of this attrocity was just getting back to Utah as the Francher company traveled south through the state boasting of their contempt for Mormons. Keep in mind they were well armed and had military experience which made them feel invulnerable to the local hicks. They had a large herd of livestock which devastated the local crops.

    Remember too that Arkansasans brutalized the Mormons as they made their way westward to escape persecution in Illinois and Missouri.

    So, into this toxic environment the Mountain Meadow Massacre un

    • comments September 25, 2018 at 1:13 am

      Wasn’t Parley P Pratt killed by the man whose wife he “stole”? It would seem that not being able to keep it in their pants caused those old LDS hotshots quite a few problems back in the day, wouldn’t you say? How many “wives” does one man need? I mean really? Being the alpha and trying to “hoard” females is pure monkey behavior. All of those hotshots did everything they could get away with back in the day, with the same m/o as a certain Prophet Warren Jeffs. And that meant letting their worst primal desires rule over them, and thinking themselves gods. Those mormons murdered women and little kids in cold blood. You can cook up all sorts of idiotic excuses, and let loose your lame attempts at apologetics, but it just shows how foolish you are. You’re trying to make excuses for evil, commonsense. Shame on you.

  • commonsense September 25, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    I have no connection to Mormonism but I find it’s history fascinating. Polygamy is not unique to Mormons but rather the norm in many cultures throughout the world. Mormons were persecuted for practicing Old Trstament polygamy. When they settled in a remote part of the American West, they thought they could practice their faith. Outsiders like the Francher Comany threatened their religious practice again. It’s not a mystery why local Mormons took out their vengeance on this well armed company trampling crops and religious beliefs as they made their way through Utah.

    • comments September 25, 2018 at 6:20 pm

      I don’t think we’ll ever know all the details of what happened with the MMM. What I find most interesting about the history of mormon cultism is how it has brought out the very darkest parts of human nature throughout it’s history–just the sort of unrestrained carnal and primal urges and desires of the LDS leadership, and how the low level cult members have always just unquestioningly obeyed these leaders that meet all the criteria of being wicked men. From a psychology perspective I find it fascinating. FLDS and Prophet Jeffs is sort of a smaller, modern example of what I imagine the UT territories were like in the early days of cult settlement–prob less inbreeding among the larger LDS cult in those early days, but a very similar cult atmosphere. The MMM I believe was caused by a combination of anger, envy, resentment, but most importantly being ordered to do it by LDS leadership, and likely by Prophet Young himself. Men who had never killed another man would not be easily persuaded to shoot an unarmed man in the head at point black range, not unless ordered to do so by a Holy Prophet. It really is a fascinating lesson in human psychology. But for someone who claims to “have no connection to Mormonism” it would certainly seem as though you deeply sympathize with the LDS murderers in this case.

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