What’s in a ‘rave’? City shuts down teenage dance party for Facebook posts

New Year's Eve 2014 Family Fest at the Washington City Community Center, Washington, Utah, Dec. 31, 2013 | Photo by Kimberly Scott, St. George News

WASHINGTON CITY — Freedom of speech? Not so much, some might say, when it comes to words posted on Facebook – at least insofar as their impact on a back-to-school dance party scheduled to be held in Washington City Saturday. The expectations of hundreds of teenagers across Washington County, including eight teenaged DJs amped to show their spin skills, were pushed aside Wednesday when Washington City canceled the Nerds and Jocks back-to-school dance because the word “rave” was included in the party’s description on Facebook.

TSUnami PROductions contracted with the Washington City Community Center to hold a Nerds and Jocks back-to-school teenage dance party, said Joshua Rios, who described himself as counselor for TSUnami Productions, an enterprise of his twin sons, Antonio Rios, 18, and Damon Rios, 18. But the city canceled the event when a few community members called the Washington City Community Center and expressed that they would no longer sponsor the community center unless TSUnami PROductions was not allowed to hold their back-to-school dance, he said.

Joshua Rios was subsequently called to a meeting Wednesday with Community Center Director Wendi Bulkley, and Washington City’s Director of Leisure Services, Barry Blake.

“I thought I was just going in there to meet and we were going to make sure everything was set up for the event,” Joshua Rios said.

Instead, Blake informed him that the dance party was canceled and held up two sheets of paper printed from TSUnami’s Facebook page, Joshua Rios said. The concern was that the posts made by Antonio Rios contained the word “rave.”

The first post mentioned a song titled, “Eat, sleep, rave, repeat,” by Fatboy Slim, and the second talked about the type of events Tsunami Productions is planning to organize such as concerts, dances, private parties, secret parties, and “raves.” An additional post of concern to the city pertained to how Joshua Rios described what the music was going to feel like at the event; he used words like “sick,” “nasty” and “radical.”

“My son has never been to a rave, never done drugs, never been in trouble,” Joshua Rios said.

The intended use of the word “rave,” he said, was in reference to the type of music that would be played – electronic-music, which is one of the meanings of the word “rave.”

At the same time, drug use and sex are also affiliated with this word, in the illegal sense, which is the reason the city had a heightened reaction to the Facebook postings and, he said, a misperception of what TSUnami PROductions is affiliated with and the type of events it promotes.

“It’s unfortunate, it seems there was a misunderstanding,” Washington City Mayor Ken Neilson said. “The word was probably used in the euphoria of trying to promote the event. I don’t think we would be opposed if they tried to hold a future dance.”

“I erased the posts immediately,” Joshua Rios said. “That is not the definition of rave, I’m thinking of rave as music, the definition of rave is electronic music being played in a certain format.”

Joshua Rios went straight to the police station after the meeting with Bulkley and Blake and spoke with Washington City Police Chief Jim Keith, a conversation he recorded. In that conversation, Keith said that he supported Blake’s decision canceling the dance and that the concern surrounding the use of the word “rave” is “because of what is out there and the perception that is out there.”

The city’s reasoning was that the public doesn’t understand the difference between an event being held at the community center by a third party versus an event being held by the community center itself, Lex de Azevedo, also known as DJ Lex, said in an email to St. George News. In other words, you’re not just renting the location, you’re partnering with the community center, he said.

“This was very surprising to me,” Azevedo said. “If you follow that logic, you’re left with a scenario that the city could deny anyone use of the facility based off a single complaint by the public or sponsors of the community center.”

“We have been instructed to direct all questions regarding the dance party to the city manager, Roger Carter,” Bulkley said on Friday. Carter has not responded to St. George News’ inquiries on the matter.

Washington City resident Bradyn Poulsen started an online petition Friday asking the city to release a formal announcement explaining why this event was canceled.

“I have yet to find anyone that actually believes the event would have been anything other than a back-to-school high school dance,” Azevedo said. “It’s still unclear to me as to who made the initial complaint, and if it was a legitimate complaint. The complaint wasn’t given an opportunity to be rebutted.”

Joshua Rios said that he planned on hiring police officers and security just as he had done July 11 for the first TSUnami PROductions teenage dance party held at the Washington City Community Center. For that party, he hired two policemen, 10 security personnel and had numerous parental chaperones to provide safety precautions.

“I have done events at the community center for years. They’ve always been great to work with,” Azevedo said. “It’s a good place to have dances because teens and parents know it’s going to be a clean and safe environment. It deters the troublemakers from showing up to events because they know police are nearby.”

Damon Rios has been heavily involved with Special Olympics and Antonio Rios with soccer. They both love to entertain, Joshua Rios said, and thus hosting and promoting events came as a natural fit.

“What’s sad is they are experiencing the same challenges from local cities like I did in the ’90s,” Joshua Rios said. “From 1995 to 2014, we as a community still treat dancing events the same.

“… If you are a comedian, if you’re an actor, if you’re a DJ, if you’re a performer, if you’re an athlete, if you’re in the public eye of entertainment, you’re not held as liable and literal of your words, lyrics or expressions of art, because then the Beatles, Elvis and everybody from that time to now, and even now, would all be in trouble, incarcerated in jail.”

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91 Comments

  • Koolaid August 16, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    Maybe too many old church people believe that girls should be thinking about getting married, having babies and going to group breast feeding events and the guys should be tending to their dogs and horses…. if you know what I mean. Think of the beer commercial where the guy says “Stay thirsty, my friend” except here in dixie change it to “Stay worthy, my brother (sister)”

  • Utah Mom August 16, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    It is totally out of line that the city allows a couple of grumpy old people to control a facility that is mainly supported by tax dollars from the entire city. I guess it is no longer a true Community Center but an expensive building that is controlled by the few that write checks every month. They need to change the name so it does not say “Community” center but rename it after the ones who make the real decisions and send in the checks.

    • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:26 am

      You have no idea what a rave is if your singing this tune Your as bad as the mom that cooked her kid in the car..protect your kids lady.

      • Lane August 18, 2014 at 2:23 am

        You should have read his post on Facebook before you give any parental advice Mark. You might not look like an idiot attacking how someone raises their children.

    • SAGEMOON August 18, 2014 at 9:24 am

      I’m with you, Utah Mom.

  • TSM (fictitious name, edited) August 16, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    The reason I gave the order to cancel this dance was because Joshua Rios did not get approval from me prior to scheduling this dance. As such I could not review the music to make sure it was appropriate for our young brothers and sisters to hear. Furthermore God told me many years ago that dancing was the devils work. He said that dancing, while it may appear to be mindless fun was nothing more then a devilish way of promoting sex outside of wedlock God told me in a revelation that dancing, outside of church sanctioned activities of course, is a sin and must be prevented at all costs. The reason we allow dances in church is because dancing in church promotes marriage between a man and a woman. Marriage that leads to children and a family. I say, brothers and sisters, that the only way to be like God and get your own planet after you leave this mortal world is to get married and have children. As you can clearly see this dance had to be stopped, for the sake of children’s eternal soul. As repentance for their intended crime against The Lord. I hereby order that all faithful children who were planning to attend this atrocious attempt to promote wanton sinful behavior and sexual behavior outside of wedlock report to their Bishops at once for a reeducation blessing.

    • Aaron August 16, 2014 at 4:16 pm

      Ahh…but Thomas….When the Spirit of the Lord comes upon my heart I will Dance like David Danced.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inx1L0GUPQw

      Heads up Joyce….it’s just a little YouTube Video .

      • Joyce Kuzmanic Joyce Kuzmanic August 17, 2014 at 7:52 am

        It’s fine, Aaron – that guy can sing. 🙂
        Joyce
        EIC

    • MR. Luna August 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm

      Thomas you are clearly brainwashed if you think everyone is just going to have sex right after dances to music at a community center. Believe or not buddy, these kids that go to church have m

    • MR. Luna August 16, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      More than likely experimented with sex, maybe even drugs, once before. If you are truly one of the reasons that the event was canceled then you sir can…!! If everyone took the time to read your stupid comment, you sir would have people writing worse things to you, but I’m going to stop, “perfect” Mormon.
      Ed. ellipsis.

    • Jenkxy August 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm

      You need to read your Bible, they dance in the the Bible!!!! If all dancing is wrong, like you claim, then dancing in the church is wrong to! And if these people are so worried about drugs, then they need to take the kids out of the schools, because they are filled with drugs. If you don’t believe that, you are lying to yourself!

    • Officialdjsweets August 16, 2014 at 7:40 pm

      The Bible doesn’t give specific instructions on dancing. It may be helpful to point out some examples of good and bad dancing. Exodus 32:6, 19-25

      Is dancing a sin? No. Not the act of dancing, in and of itself.
      But is dancing naked on a pole a sin? Certainly. It’s designed to arose lust and desire in others. It all depends upon context.

      “David, wearing a linen ephod, danced before the LORD with all his might” (2 Samuel 6:14 )

    • SK August 16, 2014 at 7:50 pm

      So your saying that Its OKAY for people to dance in a church and not teens who wanna have fun? Doesn’t sound right. I AGREE to ”officialdjsweets” that
      The Bible doesn’t give specific instructions on dancing.”
      Now while the Bible does not come out and directly say “dancing is a sin,” there are some scriptures that indicate that participating in such actions do not become one who would name himself a Christian… My kids need SOMETHING to do and not just lay around the house all day! Tsunami productions should still be able to throw party’s because this JOSH guy sounds like he’s a really nice guy and has a beautiful healthy family.

    • Keep church&cityseperate August 16, 2014 at 9:51 pm

      Really funny making fun of some ones church leader. This has nothing to do with the Mormon church. This is a City problem.

    • Judy August 16, 2014 at 10:42 pm

      Oh Brother. I just saw a show that talked about the Ten Things That People Don’t Know About The Mormon Church. Some of them would make the Rave look like a tea party. Sorry, but true. You are going to drive your kids away from the church. Its 2014, not the 1800’s. Besides that, Jesus drank Wine.

    • Emily August 17, 2014 at 10:17 pm

      It is quite disappointing that a supposedly reputable news source such as the St. George News would stoop to allowing such offensive comments as the imposter posing as President Thomas S. Monson posted above. That person is using a respectable and beloved man’s name in order to mock the church and twist it’s teachings. What is amazing is that anyone could actually believe that those comments really did come from the president of the LDS church. The church does not operate that way.

      It is almost comical the way these comments have immediately turned to attacking a church even though the issue is strictly a town, community center, and parental issue. And there is no teaching that dancing is of the devil, and there is no such thing as a “re-education blessing.” Good grief! Do you people believe everything you read here?

      If the St. George News can’t moderate their comments better than this, and refrain from allowing a good man’s name to be used in such a disgusting manner, I may have to leave here and renew my subscription to The Spectrum.

      • Joyce Kuzmanic Joyce Kuzmanic August 18, 2014 at 7:37 am

        Emily, although the commenter you refer to is obviously using the Thomas Monson name satirically, your point is well-taken; let me see what I can do about that.
        Thank you for sharing your thoughts,
        ST. GEORGE NEWS | STGnews.com
        Joyce Kuzmanic
        Editor in Chief

        • Emily August 18, 2014 at 8:32 am

          Thank you, there are many of us who would appreciate that.

          When this person chose that name as their user name I’m sure they were just as surprised as I am that it was allowed.

          • Sophie Scholl August 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm

            Emily, get off your high horse and join the real world.

            Joyce, Thomas”s comments were obviously satirical and I saw no reason to censor them beyond what was already done. The name he or she used was not offensive and the comments were not violent, threatening or aggressive. I think that if you are going to start censoring names that are not offensive, obscene or threatening, you should make people subscribe like the spectrum does.

        • Andy August 18, 2014 at 10:40 am

          Joyce, don’t change a thing. The comments should be moderated for a few things like criminal threats and obscenity, but if Emily doesn’t understand satire and sarcasm that’s her problem. She can read the news and skip the comments section or take up her threat to go read the dull Spectrum. Everyone else knows it is a free-market-place of ideas and not the news article content submitted by, or subject to the rules of, the SGNews.

      • Sophie Scholl August 18, 2014 at 2:54 pm

        Actually the church operates in the very way you say it doesn’t. Here is just one example but there are many more. In 1964 Delbert Stapley (sp) wrote a
        Letter to then Governor George Romney urging him to back down on his pro civil rights stance saying:

        “When I reflect upon the Prophet’s statements and remember what happened to three of our nation’s presidents who were very active in the Negro cause, I am sobered by their demise. They went contrary to the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith–unwittingly, no doubt, but nevertheless, the prophecy of Joseph Smith, “…those who are determined to pursue a course, which shows an opposition, and a feverish restlessness against the decrees of The Lord, will learn, when perhaps it is too late for their own good, that God can do His own work, without the aid of those who re not dictated by His counsel,” has and will continue to be fulfilled”.

        Emily if you wish to research this yourself the letter can be found in it’s entirety at the link posted below.
        Mormon matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/delbert_stapley.pdf

      • MOMONOMO August 18, 2014 at 8:00 pm

        Threatening to leave and take your money elsewhere? It seems thats how some crotchety rich mormon managed to get this “rave” canceled. Thanks for trying to force your agenda on the rest of us. Oh you silly mormons and your tactics.

        • Real Life August 18, 2014 at 10:22 pm

          She actually believes the church has no influence in this. Wow Emily, you really are blind. There is no reasoning with someone so far gone.

    • Lane August 18, 2014 at 2:38 am

      Not everyone is a zealot.

  • tom August 16, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    They could have been smart and asked to have them change the wording and still let the thing happen. If you deny teenagers from having any fun at all, some will rebel solely because of that. And some will go find a negative alternative because they still want to have fun that night.

  • TALENTEDLADY August 16, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    STUPID THAT CITY WOULD CANCEL EVENT BECAUSE OF A “WORD”. FOOTLOOSE ALL OVER AGAIN.

  • Summer August 16, 2014 at 3:04 pm

    This is so lame! Some of my best teen memories come from dancing at Knott’s Berry Farm in a safe environment. The kids would be dancing at THE WASHINGTON REC CENTER, not some empty warehouse in the industrial area. There’s just not much for a teenager to do here, especially if you aren’t part of young men’s or women’s.

    Suggestion: if you’re so worried, why don’t you chaperone! That’d be a better solution than outright canceling the event.

  • BOBBER August 16, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    EVEN GOOD LITTLE MORMON BOYS AND GIRLS NEED TO EXPERIMENT WITH CASUAL SEX AND RECREATIONAL DRUG USE FROM TIME TO TIME. LET THEM HAVE THEIR RAVE PARTY…

    • Koolaid August 16, 2014 at 6:21 pm

      Rather than dance off that pent up energy, they’ll probably get into fights and start riots somewhere or shoot dogs and cats.

    • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:28 am

      The floor is to hard they are not going to have sex come people.

  • Mike August 16, 2014 at 3:59 pm

    “Innocent before before proven guilty” what the … does this mean?
    Ed. ellipsis.

  • Red Rocker August 16, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Back to the Fifties we go. I remember how the bans on Rock and Roll turned out. We all rocked harder!! Rave On!

  • Amber August 16, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    RIDICULOUS! Canceling this event was a total over reaction!

  • anothermom August 16, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    So let’s close down the event so the kids have nothing to do and instead of spending their time dancing and having fun they can just do what’s left to do in this town on a Saturday night. They can go to the movies, eat ice cream or drink and do drugs and get pregnant or just become a school drop out drug dealer. There is just SO MUCH to do for the kids in the town on a Saturday night we wouldn’t actually want them to have any fun at all. So let’s give them less options and see where that goes. OK where is Kevin Bacon when you need him? Shouldn’t we be doing a Footloose song and dance now; we all know we live in such an old hypocritical church run town. Yea yea I know if I don’t like it I could move but really the city needs to grow a set and give more options to our young men and woman here in town. I raised my kids with a firm hand and a firmer grasp of the word of GOD and I prepared them for the world, now let them experience it!

  • Bridgette August 16, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    And we wonder why do many teens and kids are turning to meth and other forms of drugs. All the clean fun for these kids is constantly taken away because of one stupid word and the people who cancel it think because they don’t like it then it shouldn’t happen.. It’s time st George and Washington get out of the pockets of these few people who get influence just by writing checks.

  • Joshua Rios August 16, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Thank you STG News for staying real to the story and being the voice of the people! Hats off and Cheers!

  • Joshua Rios August 16, 2014 at 7:07 pm

    Aspen you are awesome!!! thank you!

    • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:30 am

      Shes a loved raves when she was in school of course she will support you Joshua.

  • Joshua Rios August 16, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    my son Damon (such an old soul he has) asked Roger after i left upset of his decision and Lex went out to chat with me, he said whats your son doing Josh, hes still in Rogers office, at the time I said idk hes doing what he knows best, I never worry about that man, he teaches me, not the other way around, at the time I was to emotional I just staid out side the offices till Damon my son came out . Later that night I asked Damon what he told Roger and he said, I just asked him if everyone who denied us would come see our dance in action and felt like it was a threat to teens then they could shut us down then, Roger said, sorry cant do that. what did my son learn?…………………….. FootLoose 2014?

  • Kevin Bacon August 16, 2014 at 8:12 pm

    They tried this same thing to me and my friends when we were in high school. It was a small town that thought dancing was evil. We stood up to the town leadership and showed them that dancing was fun. Now the entire town dances everywhere they go. Really, if they need to go somewhere they dance to get there.

  • bob August 16, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    LDS Lame Discriminating Society

  • S. Carter August 16, 2014 at 8:25 pm

    Anyone who is interested, I will be heading to the city library. I’ve got a long list of inappropriate books that apparently can be found there that need to be destroyed. I will be bringing an old barrel so I can burn these harmful books and save our children’s souls. All are welcome to join, just bring your own gasoline, and your favorite biblical scriptures so we can quote them as we watch the devils words go up in flames!!! I’m starting with Harry Potter

    • SING4MONEY August 17, 2014 at 5:59 am

      Yes, I will be there cuz I have a book at home that teaches my daughter all about her body and how to care for herself. That needs to go. Why should she have any say about herself?

  • Bad word choice for advertisement August 16, 2014 at 8:43 pm

    In my business I can get fined thousands of dollars by the government for wrong word choices in my advertising. True Mr. Rios, one of the definitions of rave is a large party with electronic music but the more common meaning in 2014 is a drug filled wild party. You know that as well as I do. Stop crying about the city shutting you down and take some responsibility for your poor choice of wording in an advertisement. I would rather see the kids having fun at your dance in the community center than out on the streets but the fault is yours. Use your head next time.

    • TALENTEDLADY August 17, 2014 at 5:56 am

      WHY IS SOMEONE (CITY) DECIDING WHICH WORDS ARE GOOD AND WHICH ARE BAD. CAN I DECIDE FOR MYSELF? I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE “RAVE” MEANS MUSIC AND CITY CHOOSES “SEX AND DRUGS” …GREAT FOR WHOMEVER CHOOSES THE LATTER, DONT COME. HOW SIMPLE IS THAT? PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR (…)
      (Ed. ellipsis)

  • vj August 16, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    separation of church and state. Something Utah obviously hasn’t grasped yet.

  • The Rest Of The Story August 16, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    Utah…with it’s high rate of LDS population…has the highest rate of online porn consumption.

    But yet you can’t go to a dance.

    Mormon has one “m” too many–right in the middle.

  • Stacy macdonald August 16, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    Reminds me of the movie Footloose.

  • highschooler at heart August 16, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    I grew up here with the dance factory and loved it, I actually met my husband there. I remember after it was shut down walking up and down the blvd for fun and being told by police officer to go home and stay there. This town is being overtaken buy the elderly who think that all teenagers are druggies and sex machines and its getting out of hand. The company made a wording mistake, why weren’t the given the chance to re-word or even defend themselves? Let the (…) children have some fun, its supervised and regulated in every way possible. FOOTLOOSE MY FRIENDS, FOOTLOOSE! LET THEM HAVE THEIR DANCE.
    (Ed. ellipsis)

  • real life August 16, 2014 at 11:48 pm

    Welcome to 1936 Berlin.

  • Joshua Rios August 17, 2014 at 2:02 am

    For the record the words were NOT used in our advertisements at all for the event. they were on a different Facebook page, NOT the high school event Facebook page. second, the other of the two post was referring to a top 40 radio song out right now in the mainstream radio called “eat, sleep rave repeat”. again not in relation to the event that was going to happen tonight. So, lets keep the facts str8. Also contracts were breached, and in the entertainment world SIR we do not get fined for using WORDS, this is ludicrous!!! We are talking about teens in high school that use slang words for many reasons. examples: heck, freakin, rad, sick, dope, we all know what your really trying to say…right? So here is a post I read today form a angry Mother on one of these tons of feeds about this issue, quote she said her and her young womens say they are going to rave at the dance at the church, another mother said her and her kids play dance music in their living room harmlessly and kids are like rave rave rave, we are talking about toddlers. I, SIR did not use the words if you read correctly the story, it came from a my Teen who street slang here in STG is more harmless then harm, he was using these words in reference to how cool of dances we ARE going to have, if you knew my teen son you would laugh at this whole thing on what they thought of the word, again we were never asked, just told, or was that the real issue? That was the smoke and mirrors sir, because we all agree it is stupid to ban a dance for a word used not in the adv. direct in relation too dance….period, the real issue is this is NOT a community center, it is a business enterprise, like a private business, using public tax dollars but yet making private business type of decision, if this was the Dixie Center, or a Privately Owned Business that rented space for events, weddings, seminars, things as such, where the company was owned by a private owner or partnership. I would not even had said anything (because proper contracts would have been in place, been there done that dozens of times), or like you said SIR cry about it. This is a COMMUNITY CENTER?, I am part of this community, so are the teens, and the parents, and so, one, there needs to be a proper contract for what this so called community center really is, it really should be called the “sponsors name” center, community has nothing to do with it, its abut money, judgments, assumptions, perceptions, and so on, sir go back to COMMUNIST CHINA, we are in AMERICA. Read our Constitution and Declaration it says it all there , really black and white SIR. Again so we are clear we are TALKING ABOUT FREAKIN DANCING. WOW.

    • Bad word choice for advertisement August 17, 2014 at 8:41 am

      Mr. Rios. I would love to see you do dances at the community center my friend but you need to learn a little about insurance and liability issues for the city. When you contract to use their facility you also have to play by their rules. When you use the word rave on your facebook page it puts the city at liability risk if someone gets hurt at your event and sues. It has to do with protecting the city and it’s citizens from being open to lawsuits. You are chopping off your own feet by ranting and raving about this on a public forum. The city is going to think twice next time about letting you use their facility after reading all of this non sense that you are spouting. By the way, I do know a little bit about the entertainment business. I have been doing sound for live bands for years.

      • MOMONOMO August 19, 2014 at 9:17 am

        You’re making an assumption this has to do with liability issues. The article makes it clear that a couple of donors threatened to stop donating if Mr. Rios (why are they targeting him?) was allowed to have the dance party. It doesn’t mention liability. This is just your “stretch” to justify the decision. Do you work for the community center or something?

  • chelle August 17, 2014 at 2:16 am

    Sounds like monson is lying to himself. If the real reason is because of a scheduling issue then why would he go into the whole dancing is evil crap? Get over your self and quit being so (…) judgmental. Only God can judge. This place needs a face lift, some kind of night life and fun…maybe the huge drug use in this city would subside?
    (Ed. ellipsis)

  • Brittany K August 17, 2014 at 4:55 am

    I was so sad to see this dance was canceled. My friend is one of the djs that is running this event. I remember when I was younger being so excited and waiting forever just to be able to go to these fun dances that were for high school kids. It kept me and my sis out of trouble and made us feel grown up for the night. Now I’m 21 and can go dance anywhere I want, but it still makes me sad to see the city cancel an event like this. Honestly most of these djs are in their late 20s and have to appeal to all crowds. If they say the word “RAVE” the high school kids get to feel cool about going to a party. They try to market to the younger kids by saying fun things like that to get more kids to go and have fun. Last time I went to a “RAve” it was held at an old wear house in the middle of nowhere not at the local community center. I have been friends with one of these djs for years and I know how they try to market. I really wish the city would’ve let these poor kids have some fun!!

  • JSD August 17, 2014 at 5:49 am

    The Thomas S. Monson comment is someone else’s snide satire isn’t it? If not, it’s the most frightening thing I’ve ever read here.

    • BOBBER August 17, 2014 at 11:31 am

      NO NO NO. IT IS ACTUALLY THE PROPHET HIMSELF. FULLY VERIFIED…

    • shqiptar August 17, 2014 at 1:39 pm

      Thats not President Monson. Just an idiot trying to make a scene.

      • TSM (fictitious name, edited) August 17, 2014 at 3:29 pm

        I am the PROPHET!!

        • Koolaid August 18, 2014 at 6:56 am

          I don’t always drink, but when I do, it’s koolaid. Stay worthy my friend.

      • Happierthanyou August 18, 2014 at 6:08 am

        Duh

  • An actual Independent August 17, 2014 at 7:24 am

    Footloose 2, the sequel. This place reminds me of the old joke about a community trying to stamp out premarital sex………..because it could lead to dancing.

  • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:34 am

    this is utah you know this thats why your here or why you moved here. It was for the quality of life that we have and by doing this kind of thing thats is how we got it and will keep it so feel free to move.

    • real life August 17, 2014 at 10:50 am

      Here we go with “just move then” guy. It must be nice living your ignorant little world. Why don’t YOU move? Maybe you would be better off in Syria, or Iran where people share your ideas of religious tolerance.

    • SING4MONEY August 17, 2014 at 11:21 am

      you move old fart

    • HAPPYTO SEEYAGO August 17, 2014 at 2:53 pm

      Hey Mark, I challenge you to live somewhere else. You will have a rude awakening when you find the rest of the country doesnt live in a box. And you probably get the crap kicked out of ya too. But ya wont cuz your afraid to be around people who dont share your ideas.

      • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:02 pm

        hey happy why give me a try. you got my name don’t hide behind that bs screen name. lets talk where can I meet ya. just not the kind a guy that wants to deal with the crap you move in’s bring with ya there are laws and rules and Thomas nobody gives a crap about your card carrying members its more of a do the right thing kinda deal I don’t she how religion has anything to do with it I am personally not affiliated with any religious membership…heck your to afraid to stand up and share your ideas using your real name.. you little commenter must be proud if your thought or cowards

        • HAPPYTO SEEYAGO August 18, 2014 at 6:05 am

          Mark, I tried to read your message but it is nearly incoherent. Please re-submit.

      • Mark Vinclio August 17, 2014 at 8:04 pm

        challenge accepted

        • stupid is stupid does August 17, 2014 at 10:31 pm

          I would call you a d bag, but your comments do it for you. You are the coward, living in a world that does not exist.

          • Doug Bringhurst August 18, 2014 at 11:04 am

            Really? Because I think Mark is right your rave was canceled. The world he talks about exist’s in Washington County. Re apply for your little dance the right way. Fix the problem don’t cry about it. If you do things diplomatically they usually workout. Really it comes down to is it a rave or a dance.

        • Not a Bishops Wife August 17, 2014 at 11:43 pm

          We’re glad to see you go Mark. Have a good life in Iraq. Let’s just hope that they haven’t progressed to the point that they’re actually decent people by the time you get there though for if they do, you will have no place to go because no one else on Earth thinks they way you do. Not anymore anyway. 🙂

        • sing4money August 18, 2014 at 6:07 am

          Great. I will help you move. And pick you up when you figure out the rest of the country wont put up with your crap. But that IS why your here, right.

        • keyboard cowboy August 18, 2014 at 7:04 am

          Oooh look out for this tough guy.

          • Doug Bringhurst August 19, 2014 at 8:30 am

            From what I see your name keyboard cowboy says it all. just sayin! Cowboys are tough maybe you should pick another name.

  • TSM (fictitious name, edited) August 17, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Mark, thank you for your service to me, the true church … DANCING OUTSIDE OF CHURVH SANCTIONED ACTIVITIES IS A SIN and I commend you for having the courage to speak out against sin in the face if a tyrannical liberal controlled federal government that is actually trying to get us to do what we say we do!! *laughs* Can you believe that?
    Ed. ellipsis.

  • Leo August 17, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Thomas and Mark maybe you should move to Haldane?

  • Leo August 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Oh I meant Hildale!

  • Joshua Rios August 17, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    using the word “rave” in un related posts has nothing to do with liability , bbbaaaaaa, that was funny.
    I am not wanting ever to use the Washington rec center if this is the way it is operated…………nononoooo my friend I don’t sell out, for money. I have signed contracts that were clear, this one is not on cancellations of events. It is what it is .

  • Mr. Jones August 17, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    i believe this is 2014 not 1860.

  • Tony Shambono August 17, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    If your dumb enough to us any words that are offensive to describe anything you stand for. Thenyou bring problems to yourself. Look at how it would be if you had a bobber with cool aids pushing ins and out of the whole causeing what their mothers said should have been a bor tited. And how did someone with this ancestry, become racist enough to bring in the chinness people, bring up black and white. If he wants to explain the constitution and black and white things he may want to call his cousins and let them no where the southern boarder is at, the associated laws or do we forget that part. Then they say the city only worries about money. I wounder if this truly successful production company wants to make money from this party? If it does try to convince all the move ins to go back where they’re from and only have the locals show up. You won’t have to spend money on security or the police. We never locked our doors are took keys out of our cars until folks moved here and brought their dead beat families with them. I feel like moving back to Span.

    • MOMONOMO August 19, 2014 at 9:24 am

      I’ve read your post twice and still can’t figure out what you’re trying to say.

  • Lane August 18, 2014 at 2:49 am

    Why is a community center that was built with tax money controlled by zealots? “Something for everyone all in one place.” Senseless words spewn on a screen or just a lie? You decide…

  • Blunt Poster August 18, 2014 at 8:07 am

    Why don’t Baptists have sex standing up? It might lead to dancing.

  • Knan August 18, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Caffeine is a SIN too. Let’s remove all the soda and coffee and caffeinated drinks from this town! Oh and next lets ban dancing… Wait dancing outside in large numbers is already agents the law!!! Good old geezzzy

  • Joshua Rios August 18, 2014 at 10:53 am

    Tony you must be on drugs or not know how to read, you twisted all my words on post, good job buddy you sound like the people who denied us, read the articles and post, (not on drugs or drunk) then post. Just saying. It is interesting the way society thrives on this type of news. If people really read the stories its clear what happened.

  • SAGEMOON August 18, 2014 at 11:35 am

    A true “rave” is not going to be held at a community center with police officers used as security. People here are so paranoid! Rave is not just an event, but also a way to describe a genre of music. The title of Fat Boy Slim’s new hit shouldn’t have to be censored just to appease those who live in fear of the word “rave.” I am thoroughly disgusted by this situation. The best way to handle it would have been for the community center to ask the DJs to remove the word “rave” from their FB page and explain that it was to appease certain sponsors. Then the community center should have had a backbone to tell the sponsors that the “offensive” word was removed, the dance was ready to go forward, and security seemed fitting for the event. But then again, the community center events planning guy isn’t so great at his job. I talked to him about doing an event there and he never called me back! Not good customer service to begin with. I say get a new person to head up the events department. I also want these sponsors to come forward and explain why they found the word “rave” so offensive and give some advice to the community about what wording is acceptable in their minds. Let’s get a dialogue going so we can compromise on making events in our community happen!

  • Joe August 19, 2014 at 8:25 am

    I guess it’s better that they hold a secret dance. That way the kids can do whatever they want.

  • Incognegro (Josh Dalton) August 19, 2014 at 9:02 am

    We need to bring Keven Bacon back to Utah. The only thing is law enforcement might charge him with causing a riot.

  • loady August 29, 2014 at 5:42 pm

    Move the event to a bigger town. There must be some that want the money. But yes, its common knowledge that for at least 10 years the word rave has been associated with drugs. Its stupid to use that word because there will be negative repercussions.

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