Conflict arises over shooting range proposed next door to haven for domestic abuse victims

WASHINGTON CITY — The Washington City planning commission voted earlier this month to withhold approval from Dixie Gun Worx to build an indoor gun range facility at its location. The concerns raised had to do with Gun Worx being located next door to an Erin Kimball Memorial Foundation’s shelter for women and children who have been victimized by domestic abuse. Now the local gunsmith is appealing that decision.

View of hitherto unoccupied Erin Kimball Memorial Foundation (left) and Dixie Gun Worx (right), 400 W. Telegraph St., Washington City, Utah, July 17, 2013 | Photo by Kevin Gilbert Mauer, St. George News
View of hitherto unoccupied Erin Kimball Memorial Foundation (left) and Dixie Gun Worx (right), 400 W. Telegraph St., Washington City, Utah, July 17, 2013 | Photo by Kevin Gilbert Mauer, St. George News

Dixie Gun Worx primarily offers repair, decoration, and enhancement services to gun owners, along with retailing a modest collection of firearms. It has neighbored the Kimball Foundation’s site since the gunsmith moved to the location in January, but new tension was introduced between them when it sought city approval for the gun range facility.

The properties are located along Telegraph Street within a service commercial zone, shorthanded by the city as C-2. While the zone is full of businesses, a residential neighborhood begins one block away.

When the Kimball Foundation purchased its property over a year ago, it gained permission from the city to convert the zoning for its lot to downtown mixed use, shorthanded as DM. This was done in order to provide housing on an upper floor for families fleeing from unsafe homes, in addition to accommodating the organization’s administrative operations on the main floor. To this point, the property has remained unoccupied as planning has been in the works.

In January, Dixie Gun Worx purchased a property next door, and has used it for commercial use in accordance with city zoning laws. The company had always intended to construct an indoor gun range on the site, co-owner Jacob Cooper said. But to do so, the company needed to obtain a conditional use permit from the city because the allowance of such a facility in a C-2 was not specifically mentioned in the zoning code.

Drew Ellerman, Washington City’s Community Development Director, said that from a zoning perspective, there is no real impediment to the facility’s approval. In fact, from his capacity as a zoning administrator, he recommended approval to the planning commission.

While his office is concerned with the strictly technical aspects of zoning, Ellerman said that the planning commission is entrusted with taking other considerations into account, such as the appropriateness of one entity’s proximity to another.

Chapter 17 of the city code states that conditional use permits may only be granted when there is proof to the effect that, “the proposed use, at the particular location, is necessary or desirable to provide a service or facility which will contribute to the general well being of the neighborhood and community; and that such use will not, under the circumstances of the particular case, be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity, or injurious to property or improvement in the vicinity.”

If the Kimball Foundation were not next door, Ellerman said, approval would have passed with a 5-0 vote. Instead, the vote was 3-2 in opposition to approval.

“The three that voted against it thought it would be too much for the women who would live in the Erin Kimball Foundation,” Ellerman said. “It was totally based on that.”

“They come from different walks of life and have had different experiences,” Ellerman said of the planning commission. “That’s why it’s a good system.”

The Foundation’s concern

Sue Kimball, the Foundation’s founder, said that the existence of a shooting range nearby would be “incongruous with the fact that our facility is here.”

“We were here first,” she said.

Kimball’s daughter and grandchildren were shot and killed in 1983 by her son-in-law. She established the Foundation in order to help families who face similar threats from abusive husbands and fathers.

Exposure to an indoor shooting range at such close proximity “has a potential to harm the families that we serve,” she said, noting that many such families suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.

Kimball said that the Foundation purchased the property with the specific intent of creating a healing environment, which she said would be undermined by the presence of a shooting range next door.

She said that the proposed shooting range does not warrant a conditional use permit according to the city’s guidelines in that it is detrimental to the well being of its neighbors, adding that while she is comfortable with the gunsmith shop being next door, it would be much more appropriate for the gun range to be “in an industrial neighborhood.”

Dixie Gun Worx responds

But Dixie Gun Worx maintains that optimal locations for an indoor shooting range, such as the owners believe this one to be, are difficult to come by. Both owners expressed a preference for building in Washington City. In addition, one of the co-owners, Chris Michel, said that an industrial zone would not be ideal because the business places a priority on its location being safe for families.

Jacob Cooper, another co-owner, said that after looking all over Washington City, a location comparable to the current property has not been found. He said that if the conditional use permit for this property were to fall through, the business would have to move to another city.

But Michel said that the company has indeed been looking into another location in Washington City, which is also on Telegraph Street.

“The need is dire,” Cooper said. “There is no indoor shooting range in the county.”

Currently, the nearest indoor shooting range is in Las Vegas, although Rowdy’s Range has been planning to build a range in St. George for several years.

Cooper said that he does not feel antagonism toward the planning committee, but does believe that it made its decision based primarily on emotions rather than facts. He also suggested a conflict of interest implicating Commissioner Rick Schofield, who said at the hearing that he had personally donated to Kimball Foundation.

Cooper said that Washington City Mayor Ken Neilson has given “full support” of the project since it was first conceptualized several months ago. Cooper is also confident to have the support of city council.

City officials declined to comment, saying only that everyone has the right to appeal the planning commission’s decisions.

The appeal was news to Kimball, who said that neither the city nor Dixie Gun Worx had informed her of it. “I thought this had ended,” she said, apologizing for her show of emotion.

“I’m not certain that you can mitigate the sight and sound and smell of gunfire,” Kimball said. “I’m just not sure you can do that.”

But Cooper said that numerous acoustics technologies help to mitigate the carry of the sound of gunshots. A test conducted by Action Target at Get Some Guns along State Street in Murray, Utah, found that the sound level of the shots was comparable to that of street traffic as few as ten feet outside the building. Cooper also said that his company is willing to construct a high wall between the buildings so that Kimball Foundation residents would not see Dixie Gun Worx customers carrying their firearms in and out of the store.

Kimball, however, said that the sight or sound of firearms is not her primary concern. “My opinion,” she said, “is that energetically, having multiple rounds of amunition being shot in the direction of our building with victims of violence living there is inappropriate under any circumstance.”

Still, for many, economic considerations are also at play.

Michel made his case for the range to a sympathetic customer: “How much money are we bringing into the city, versus how much (the Kimball foundation is) going to bring in?”

Cooper said he believes the two entities can coexist as neighbors. The Foundation provides a great service, he said, “but so do we.”

But Kimball said that the existence of a shooting range next door would undermine the Foundation’s mission.

“As a society we need to learn to resolve our differences through peaceful means,” she said. “Proliferating the use of guns to resolve every single issue we have is not okay. We’ve become absolutely paranoid. We think that the use of a gun is the answer to everything.

“We all have a right to exist in an environment without violence.”

But the last word will belong to the city council, who will judge the appeal Tuesday, July 23, at 6:00 p.m. A public forum will be held from 5:30-6:00 p.m., at which residents who wish to speak must register before the forum begins.

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27 Comments

  • My Evil Twin July 18, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    I’m sorry to hear about Kimball’s daughter and grandchildren. What a horrible thing to have to live with. However, this seems to me like a total over-reaction on her part.
    Let me put it a little differently. Many of us, have had immediate family members and close friends that were killed in car wrecks. But we don’t call for a restriction on cars in the neighborhoods we live in.
    And then, she is talking about being there first. But the article plainly states that her building is and has remained unoccupied while “planning is in the works.” So how can she possibly claim she was there first? Sure she may have been the first to purchase the property with something in mind for it, but since that has not happened, and is still in “planning,” she certainly is not “first.” She could easily hold up for “planning,” for many years.
    The city of Washington needs to take a long hard look at this situation. The basing of decisions that will impact the future of the neighborhoods, and the city itself, should not be decided with emotions, but with logic.

    • Genae July 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm

      I too, and very sorry to hear about the heartbreak which was caused by the Kimball family’s son in law. Nothing can ever take away the pain and loss she has received. This is a terrible situation she has to live with, which will never go away.
      In response to the article above, I think there could be a meeting the middle to let both businesses exist. As shown in the photo above, the Erin Kimball Foundation home is located up the hill from Dixie Gun Worx. From the front door of the home, it looks as if you couldn’t even see the Dixie Gunworx building, unless you walked over to the edge of the property and looked down. If this bothers the owners, perhaps the Erin Kimball Foundation or Dixie Gunworx could plant tall plants, or erect a taller wall between the buildings. As far as the sound of shooting coming from the building, there wouldn’t be any. If Dixie Gunworx build their Indoor Shooting Range with the same materials used in the Salt Lake City indoor ranges I have visited in northern Utah, sound wouldn’t be a problem at all. You can stand outside their business doors and not hear a single shot! I heard that Dixie Gunworx would be putting in double the soundproofing! They seem to be very accomodating and willing to work with others.
      I hope these two businesses and the city of Washington can work out their differences – and our county can have both of these good businesses. I see allot of good coming from both interests. Can’t they co-exist? Please Washington City, will you reconsider?

  • DoubleTap July 18, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Evil Twin has it right about the “being here first” part. Just because you purchased the property first and NOT inhabiting it, is not being there first. The building sits empty, has been empty for a long time. Dixie Gun Worx IS conducting business there CURRENTLY and not in the “planning phase”. So it may be about who is conducting there services/business FIRST. An indoor range has long been needed in this area. Along with the tax revenue that is and will be generated by DGX, the City would do well to really think this through. Someone please tell me the revenue that the Foundation will be generating besides the usual COUNTY property taxes; and how will if financially benefit the City of Washington? Advice to Washington City….don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

    • Concerned Mom July 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm

      I too, and very sorry to hear about the heartbreak which was caused by the Kimball family’s son in law. Nothing can ever take away the pain and loss she has received. This is a terrible situation she has to live with, which will never go away.
      In response to the article above, I think there could be a meeting the middle to let both businesses exist. As shown in the photo above, the Erin Kimball Foundation home is located up the hill from Dixie Gun Worx. From the front door of the home, it looks as if you couldn’t even see the Dixie Gunworx building, unless you walked over to the edge of the property and looked down. If this bothers the owners, perhaps the Erin Kimball Foundation or Dixie Gunworx could plant tall plants, or erect a taller wall between the buildings. As far as the sound of shooting coming from the building, there wouldn’t be any. If Dixie Gunworx build their Indoor Shooting Range with the same materials used in the Salt Lake City indoor ranges I have visited in northern Utah, sound wouldn’t be a problem at all. You can stand outside their business doors and not hear a single shot! I heard that Dixie Gunworx would be putting in double the soundproofing! They seem to be very accomodating and willing to work with others.
      I hope these two businesses and the city of Washington can work out their differences – and our county can have both of these good businesses. I see allot of good coming from both interests. Can’t they co-exist? Please Washington City, will you reconsider?

      • My Evil Twin July 18, 2013 at 3:49 pm

        From the article, it is obviously Kimball that has no intention of allowing co-existance. It certainly is not the other business that is creating a problem for Kimball, other than in her mind. And while I appreciate her feelings in this situation, I think she is very out of line on it.

      • Viper July 18, 2013 at 6:56 pm

        Dixie Gunworx offered to help build the wall, they will be using the best soundproofing equipment in the industry. The Kimball’s hatred of an inanimate object is the issue here. At the city planning meeting Dixie Gunworx asked the Kimballs what they can do to be a good neighbor. Sue replied that there is nothing they can do that would make it ok. Honestly that building has been under construction for over a year and it might take it a year more before completion, not too mention it is not a very good location for a refuge home as it is located right on a busy commercial street.. I think the Kimball Foundation’s best option would be to either embrace the opportunity or relocate.

  • Cheryl July 18, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    I have been to indoor shooting ranges before. The noise outside the range was not a problem. (just make sure it is properly soundproofed) Take your business to a city that will be supportive. The city has nothing to loose if you just move to another location within city limits.

    • Angie July 18, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      I have hoped to finally have an indoor shooting range! I would LOVE to have an indoor, clean, air conditioned, dirt and sweat-free place to practice my skills. Please Washington City, please approve Dixie Gun Worx to include this in their business.

  • concerned July 18, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Well, I have to say that I don’t see the problem with the planning of this indoor shooting range, especially where Dixie Gunworx is being so accommodating. Because of what Mrs. Kimball was quoted as saying in the article, “As a society we need to learn to resolve our differences through peaceful means….Proliferating the use of guns to resolve every single issue we have is not okay. We’ve become absolutely paranoid. We think that the use of a gun is the answer to everything. We all have a right to exist in an environment without violence,” I feel that it is only Kimball’s dislike of guns that is the issue here. Guns are not something to solve all of our problems. Guns are a tool for hunting and, yes, a weapon, but ONLY if necessary. That being said, I do not condone- nor do I believe Dixie Gunworx to condone- violence in any form.

  • Andy July 18, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    It doesn’t matter St George, you would protest a terd in a toilet!!! Rowdys range has been trying to have a indoor shooting range for over a year and your council members allways find something to stop it. It’s always something huh! I now this state will never change so im moving out of this dark hole in 8 months. Trust me can’t come fast enough. You obviously want people to catch the state on fire shooting out in the hills than on a range. Oh yeah we have a range way the hell out in BFE (Hurricane). That was a great idea along with the DMV…..Stupid stupid stupid. Hey since the laddies at the DMV are so freekin pleasant lets set up the range in the DMV. You suck Utah.

    • yowza July 18, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      First, this is Washington city not st. George ya societial reject. And further more, thank you for leaving rather than having to be run out on a rail. Too bad its not for 8 months but I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait.

  • Chuck July 18, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Sounds like the perfect place for a home for Domestic Abuse Victims to me. They can walk over to the Gun Shop and Range where they can buy a gun and learn how to use one in self-defense!!

  • Archie July 18, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    I feel like if Sue Kimball has such an issue with having the house near a business that sells guns, then why did she set up shop down the street from Walmart, and a few blocks from Sportsmans Warehouse? Does she expect them to leave too? I am truly sorry about what her family has been through, but I feel like she is using it to manipulate the Planning Committee. The boys at Dixie Gunworx have been working day and night to see if they can resolve this, in fact they have even offered to build a fence between their properties. But at the Planning Committee meeting, she told them straight up that nothing they do will make it ok. I have talked to the owners of DGX, and they have said that when the Range opens, they will offer several classes, including womens self defense. If Sue Kimball will allow them, they could be a great thing for the Domestic Violence victims moving in. But instead, she is going to let her own prejudices get in the way of the well being of the people she claims she is trying to help. What a shame!!! I hope that if anyone from the city council or the planning Committee is reading this then they will take all of this into consideration.

  • Hickory July 19, 2013 at 12:06 am

    Looking at both business’s one is willing to try and prevent situations and the other is trying to heal the situation. Which case is better? I know which one costs more in the long run. We as a people should be trying to prevent these situations. DGX is planning to do just that. The Kimble Foundation has a place in out society. But at what cost to others? Really looking at the location of the house they plan to use to use “help” victims what business would they allow next door? A mechanic shop? Fabrication or construction? I can’t think of a business that would not have loud noises that resemble gun shots. How about Discount tire up the road 1 block? What if one of Kimbles victims hears the air rachets removing a tire? Sounds like a machine gun. Wow back to square one for that victim or are they going to try and get Discount kicked out of town??? Really what type of healing process can take place in a commercially zone area of any city??? I feel the Kimble Foundation was wrong to try and place their Foundation in a commercial zone area. A place for victims of any crime to heal is not located next to the busiest intersection in Southern Utah. How does the Kimble Foundation plan to heal people of domestic violence that used a vehicle? What if the idiot who committed the crime had some vehicle with a distinct sound that the victim would recognize driving on Telegraph Rd. in Washington City? There is some 45,000 vehicles that travel on Telegraph Rd. daily. Then what? Does Kimble expect Washington City to move Telegraph to help heal the victim? Message to the Kimble Foundation: location, location, location.

    • DoubleTap July 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm

      What kind of “business” is Sue Kimball wanting to operate at her location? What is it going to offer to the public that I may want to come to her “business” and purchase something? What type of revenue is her “business” going to generate and contribute to the local economy/tax base? What will her “business” operating hours be? Will she maintain an inventory of goods that it will offer to the public? Obviously, there are a great deal of questions that need to be answered by Ms. Kimball. Dixie Gun Worx leaves no questions unanswered about what it will offer. Makes sense to me.

      • Bender July 25, 2013 at 6:31 pm

        Ah DoubleTap, we meet again. Hanging out here and creeping out the abused women with your juvenile screen name? What or who do you prefer to double tap?

  • Annabelle July 22, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    To me, it seems that both sides are being insensitive. I would go as far as to say that DGX should have had a PR consultant help them better shape their messages…but really, after reading all of the comments here, unfortunately it wasn’t necessary. Since staunch republicans are so wound up in the “gun debate” right now, they have lost their manners and their ability to think beyond the surface. This issue is about more than gun rights. It’s about victims of domestic violence. Let me give you a couple of examples to help you step into their shoes for a minute. As a side note: I believe in the right to bare arms. I own two guns myself. And, I am a conservative. Most of the time:)

    One of you mentioned that it isn’t the “gun” that the domestic violence victims should fear, but the person who pulled the trigger. I agree, and I disagree. Think of it this way…..have you ever had food poisoning? After throwing up all night, being sick to death, were you a little turned off by the food you ate that made you sick? Oh wait…it wasn’t the “food’s” fault, it was the person who prepared the food. Well, even though the person who prepared the food is to blame, you probably won’t be eating that particular food for a while. I can imagine this is how victims of domestic violence might feel. If before their very eyes, a loved one was shot to death, though the “gun” wasn’t to blame, the emotional trauma from the event might cause some lasting damage. That emotional trauma might, just might, be linked to guns.

    Forgot to mention this as well…I am LDS. For those of you that are also LDS, let me ask you this….would you have a problem with a porn shop being built next to a temple? Would it make the situation better if the owners of the porn shop built a tall wall between the two buildings? Would it make you feel better if the porn shop, in addition to their porn services, also offered spirituality classes? I know this is an extreme situation, but think about it.

    I can see where Sue is coming from. I can see why she thinks that her safe haven will be negatively impacted if a shooting range were right in her back yard.

  • DoubleTap July 23, 2013 at 11:52 am

    I am really surprised that Dorothy Engleman (the other vocal local anti-gunner) is keeping her mouth shut on this issue. Wait….I better keep MY mouth shut before she finds out about this issue and chimes in.

  • Cheryl Lynn Sim July 25, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    I am survivor of domestic violence, and I am standing up and speaking out for the women that are afraid to do so. All I see in these comments is that Dixie GunworX has the right to build a shooting range next to Erin Kimball Foundation. Let me be perfectly clear with my view, as a survivor and member of the Erin Kimball Support Group. Guns are scary, they can trigger a flashback in less than 1 second, and cause anxiety, fear, sadness, grief and put us right back to the moments that we suffered extreme abuse. That is what PTSD is – it’s triggered by something symbolic of violence (whether we can hear/see/touch/smell it, that is not the point). Just knowing such a business is next door to our safe haven is detrimental to our recovery.

    I would like each and every one of you to think about how you would feel if your daughter/sister/niece/aunt/mother or grandmother was a participant of Erin Kimball, and every time she want to her place of healing and therapy, she suffered a flashback, or panic attack because of who was residing next door to their “safe” zone. Would that be alright with you? I highly doubt you would want your loved one to deal with such trauma, such pain. I can see with all of your comments that you believe Dixie GunworX has the right to build there. In reality, and if you look at the zoning codes and Washington City codes, they do not. In order to receive a permit, they must be beneficial to the area, and not harm or be detrimental the health of the residents in the area. Just the very thought of them being there, has already traumatized me, hurting me physically, emotionally and mentally. In addition, Washington City has a strict code (5-2B-1-A) which states:

    “A. Prohibition: It shall be unlawful for any person, except public officers (including animal control officers) in the pursuit of their lawful duties, to discharge a dangerous weapon within the limits of the city.”

    My question is this – is it lawful for such a business to be in existence in Washington City at all? I believe that answer is a resounding no.

    With that said, I do believe in the integrity of the business plan for Dixie GunworX – however, they need to find a different location.

    I hope that by my comments, you are able to see it from my viewpoint, and open your hearts and minds just a little bit, so you can see what we feel, as women that have been effected by abuse and violence, and the need for us to feel safe at all times.

    • My Evil Twin July 25, 2013 at 7:43 pm

      I can appreciate your feeling here, Cheryl Lynn. I honestly do. I have known many, many people who suffer from PTSD. Mostly ex-military or law enforcement, but I can certainly see where survivors of domestic violence could suffer from it.
      However, to function in this world, the way it is, a person must overcome their fears and reactions to certain things. The person who has been involved in a fatal car accident, must learn to get back into the automobile, the pilot who has crash landed, must learn to get back into an airplane. The rider who has been injured from being thrown from his horse has the choice to overcome the fear and get back on the horse, or to give up horseback riding.
      But the way the world is today, you cannot get away from firearms. They are legally carried by law enforcement personnel, (who fervently pray they will never have to use them, all the while being ready to use them if the need arises,) hunters and sports people who actively look for a chance to use them, and many, many licensed concealed carry permit holders. Firearms are a fact of life, and no matter how much you may wish it is not so, will continue to be a fact of life.
      If a person is so badly traumatized, that being in a location where they know firearms are nearby, posses a problem for them, then their need for mental health help is not going to be met by a group home or a safe haven.
      I am not in any way disparaging your view point, or your feelings. But I am telling you that your “solution” is not realistic.

      • John July 25, 2013 at 10:33 pm

        I cannot believe your ignorance. Honestly, it makes me sick. To say this to Cheryl and to say this to victims that will be housed in such a home. For an individual to suffer something as traumatic as these individuals have, then to immediately afterwards tell them to “tough up.” Wow. You certainly don’t understand human trauma and emotion. Healing takes time. And that’s all I’m saying…is that it takes time. Get a heart. Get some decency….I think you lost both somewhere.

  • Cheryl Lynn Sim August 2, 2013 at 9:37 pm

    Thank you John, for being sensitive to my feelings, I appreciate it. OK, My Evil Twin, you obviously don’t have much compassion or empathy for people that are hurt so deeply, so traumatized, that it’s hard to function. Do you even realize what Erin Kimball does? They are here to help, not harm those of us that were lucky enough to survive severe domestic violence and abuse. As far as your ridiculous comment about my mental stability, well, that just shows your ignorance – you don’t know what PTSD is, you don’t know what it feel likes, and you certainly don’t want to back down from your opinion. So, with that said, lets just look at facts and codes. I spoke about to Washington City codes that indicate a business like DixieGunX would be strictly prohibited for operating on that property. Are you able to prove me incorrect? Because I thought a code is a code, and it’s their for the safety of the citizens. So please explain to me, how in the world would it be legal for people to be firing weapons there, when there is a law against it?

  • My Evil Twin August 3, 2013 at 10:21 am

    Life is tough. That means that a person who plans on surviving must also be tough. Of course, if you are going to choose to be a victim all your life, there isn’t much help for you. “I’M A VICTIM” seems to be the only words some people have, when it comes to getting their way.
    Cheryl Lynn Sim, you seem to think that being mollycoddled is just what you need. Maybe it is. Particularly since you seem to so much like the role of being a victim.
    But you are really quite transparent. You are quite obviously one of the “anti-gun” nuts, (certainly not to be confused with being a “pro-gun” nut. . .) You make a lot of half baked comments to and about me, in your last post, so I’m going to just “consider the source” here, realizing that you are what you are.

    • Leighla August 3, 2013 at 11:22 am

      So do you suggest those scaredy-cat silly women could use a bit of gunfire to toughen up, or perhaps a good beating?

      • My Evil Twin August 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm

        Don’t be stupid. What I am saying is that life goes on, and overall, life doesn’t give a right rip about you, me, or anybody else. DEAL WITH IT.

  • chuck taylors August 24, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Cheryl is not very smart. Once you buy a property, you cannot just move somewhere else, you have to sell your property then buy another property. All of which is completely unfair to the company who purchased the property based on the promise of the city that they can use that property within the guidelines of the codes. This is not the Obama administration, full of grey areas, bottom line, its a business, operating as a business within the guidelines, everything else is an opinion and they are
    like …, everyone has one.
    Ed. ellipsis.

  • Firewyf September 24, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Seriously? An indoor shooting range promotes the use of violence to resolve conflict? I feel that most who use a shooting range are sport shooters…not criminals. They are there to perfect their sport…not kill someone. They are probably the only people who use weapons responsibly & respectfully.
    I’m sorry for her loss, but these are excuses. Nothing more.

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